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	<title>Comments for Greenpeace New Zealand Weblog</title>
	<link>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz</link>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Bovines on buses by CS</title>
		<link>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/bovines-on-buses/#comment-974</link>
		<dc:creator>CS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/bovines-on-buses/#comment-974</guid>
		<description>Wow... I didn't realise that agriculture was such a climate polluter! I just read some of the information on the web site and am shocked at our lack of response to these emissions. Well done Greenpeace for getting such a simple message out to inform all of us. I am definitely gong to try and get more of my food from organic sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; I didn&#8217;t realise that agriculture was such a climate polluter! I just read some of the information on the web site and am shocked at our lack of response to these emissions. Well done Greenpeace for getting such a simple message out to inform all of us. I am definitely gong to try and get more of my food from organic sources.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bovines on buses by Claire</title>
		<link>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/bovines-on-buses/#comment-973</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/bovines-on-buses/#comment-973</guid>
		<description>Wow - the buses look cool! I saw the one in Auckland yesterday - can you tell me which route they're taking as would love to jump onboard the 'cow bus'.

Great idea - and the smart farming sites really good - nice to see Greenpeace offering solutions rather than just ranting at people!

Look forward to your next ad campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow - the buses look cool! I saw the one in Auckland yesterday - can you tell me which route they&#8217;re taking as would love to jump onboard the &#8216;cow bus&#8217;.</p>
<p>Great idea - and the smart farming sites really good - nice to see Greenpeace offering solutions rather than just ranting at people!</p>
<p>Look forward to your next ad campaign.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creating a serious climate for change by Mark Harvey</title>
		<link>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/creating-a-serious-climate-for-change/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/creating-a-serious-climate-for-change/#comment-969</guid>
		<description>I recommend the Channel 4 documentary the Great Global Warming Swindle to help understand an alternative perspective... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend the Channel 4 documentary the Great Global Warming Swindle to help understand an alternative perspective&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creating a serious climate for change by Mark Harvey</title>
		<link>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/creating-a-serious-climate-for-change/#comment-968</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/creating-a-serious-climate-for-change/#comment-968</guid>
		<description>Thankyou for your comments.  

I read this at the bottom of one of the sites referenced!

"However, August 2008 was still 670,000 square kilometers (260,000 square miles) above August 2007, despite the record-breaking rate of decline over the past month. Why would this be? The best explanation for this is that this summer did not experience the "perfect storm" of atmospheric conditions seen throughout the summer of 2007."

The goal of "sustainable energy production" is totally admirable and I advocate this wholeheartedly.

Please keep an open mind and read alternative perspectives.. Keep differing perspectives on the table and observe events as they occur objectively.  

One further response relating to the term "Climate Change".  First we had the term "Greenhouse effect", which has now been replaced by the far more vague term "Climate Change", which can used to embrace almost any climatic variation, including warming, cooling and more or less wind, rain etc.   

Instead of having somthing measurable (such as temperature increase - relating to the greenhouse effect), we have a term that is immeasurable and cannot be refuted (called Climate Change).  This term has been chosen by those behind the peusdoscience, so they can have it "all ways" (temperatures increasing and decreasing, more or less storms etc. ) and so continue to mislead us...  

Go back to the science, and read the papers yourself....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou for your comments.  </p>
<p>I read this at the bottom of one of the sites referenced!</p>
<p>&#8220;However, August 2008 was still 670,000 square kilometers (260,000 square miles) above August 2007, despite the record-breaking rate of decline over the past month. Why would this be? The best explanation for this is that this summer did not experience the &#8220;perfect storm&#8221; of atmospheric conditions seen throughout the summer of 2007.&#8221;</p>
<p>The goal of &#8220;sustainable energy production&#8221; is totally admirable and I advocate this wholeheartedly.</p>
<p>Please keep an open mind and read alternative perspectives.. Keep differing perspectives on the table and observe events as they occur objectively.  </p>
<p>One further response relating to the term &#8220;Climate Change&#8221;.  First we had the term &#8220;Greenhouse effect&#8221;, which has now been replaced by the far more vague term &#8220;Climate Change&#8221;, which can used to embrace almost any climatic variation, including warming, cooling and more or less wind, rain etc.   </p>
<p>Instead of having somthing measurable (such as temperature increase - relating to the greenhouse effect), we have a term that is immeasurable and cannot be refuted (called Climate Change).  This term has been chosen by those behind the peusdoscience, so they can have it &#8220;all ways&#8221; (temperatures increasing and decreasing, more or less storms etc. ) and so continue to mislead us&#8230;  </p>
<p>Go back to the science, and read the papers yourself&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The beginning is in sight at Akiraho St by People</title>
		<link>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/moving-greenpeace/the-beginning-is-in-sight-at-akiraho-st/#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/moving-greenpeace/the-beginning-is-in-sight-at-akiraho-st/#comment-967</guid>
		<description>Hey,guys! If you want to save our planet, ( and we all know it's gonna drown soon ), you MUST make new glaciers, by exploding big 'bombs' with liquid nitrogen deep under water, at some distance from the existing glaciers.And when the new ice will surface, you bring it to the old glaciers and connect them by spilling some liquid nitrogen. Sounds simple, doesn't it? And you're talking the idiots into reducing the level of smoke. And please, plant new trees allover the world, to fight deforestation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,guys! If you want to save our planet, ( and we all know it&#8217;s gonna drown soon ), you MUST make new glaciers, by exploding big &#8216;bombs&#8217; with liquid nitrogen deep under water, at some distance from the existing glaciers.And when the new ice will surface, you bring it to the old glaciers and connect them by spilling some liquid nitrogen. Sounds simple, doesn&#8217;t it? And you&#8217;re talking the idiots into reducing the level of smoke. And please, plant new trees allover the world, to fight deforestation!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creating a serious climate for change by odie</title>
		<link>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/creating-a-serious-climate-for-change/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>odie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/creating-a-serious-climate-for-change/#comment-966</guid>
		<description>Hi Kathy.  Thanks for your reply.  What you say is true, and now I see how I became confused.  

When the article used the words "greenhouse gas emissions from the use of nitrogen fertiliser" I didn't realise it was referring to "total greenhouse gas emissions from agricultural soils".

I had made the mistake of thinking that in the article you were referring to nitrogen fertiliser added to the soil by farmers.  I hope other readers did not make the same mistake.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kathy.  Thanks for your reply.  What you say is true, and now I see how I became confused.  </p>
<p>When the article used the words &#8220;greenhouse gas emissions from the use of nitrogen fertiliser&#8221; I didn&#8217;t realise it was referring to &#8220;total greenhouse gas emissions from agricultural soils&#8221;.</p>
<p>I had made the mistake of thinking that in the article you were referring to nitrogen fertiliser added to the soil by farmers.  I hope other readers did not make the same mistake.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creating a serious climate for change by Michael Anderson</title>
		<link>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/creating-a-serious-climate-for-change/#comment-964</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/creating-a-serious-climate-for-change/#comment-964</guid>
		<description>Mark Harvery,

While I should respect others right to have different ideas, I find yours hard to grasp. Surely a goal of sustainable energy production is important even if you don't believe in climate change? Remember fossil fuels are a finite source! 

To try and a link global warming conspiracy to people wanting to build nuclear power generation is quite comical. I'd say the majority of people that are concerned about the environment are well aware of the damaging consequences of using nuclear power generation.

Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Harvery,</p>
<p>While I should respect others right to have different ideas, I find yours hard to grasp. Surely a goal of sustainable energy production is important even if you don&#8217;t believe in climate change? Remember fossil fuels are a finite source! </p>
<p>To try and a link global warming conspiracy to people wanting to build nuclear power generation is quite comical. I&#8217;d say the majority of people that are concerned about the environment are well aware of the damaging consequences of using nuclear power generation.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creating a serious climate for change by Kathy</title>
		<link>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/creating-a-serious-climate-for-change/#comment-962</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/creating-a-serious-climate-for-change/#comment-962</guid>
		<description>On page nine of the report, table 1.5.2 (A &#038; B), you'll see that emissions from agricultural soils - animal production, indirect emissions from nitrogen used in agriculture, and direct emissions from agricultural soils exceed those produced by road vehicles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On page nine of the report, table 1.5.2 (A &#038; B), you&#8217;ll see that emissions from agricultural soils - animal production, indirect emissions from nitrogen used in agriculture, and direct emissions from agricultural soils exceed those produced by road vehicles.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chris Robinson, 1951 - 2008 by Andrew</title>
		<link>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/people/chris-robinson-1951-2008/#comment-960</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/people/chris-robinson-1951-2008/#comment-960</guid>
		<description>I never met Chris myself. Judging from the &lt;a href="http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives/2008/09/chris_robinson_1951_2008.html#comments" rel="nofollow"&gt;comments on the original post&lt;/a&gt; he must have changed a lot of lives.

If you knew him, &lt;a href="http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives/2008/09/chris_robinson_1951_2008.html#comments" rel="nofollow"&gt;please add your thoughts&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never met Chris myself. Judging from the <a href="http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives/2008/09/chris_robinson_1951_2008.html#comments" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives/2008/09/chris_robinson_1951_2008.html#comments');">comments on the original post</a> he must have changed a lot of lives.</p>
<p>If you knew him, <a href="http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives/2008/09/chris_robinson_1951_2008.html#comments" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives/2008/09/chris_robinson_1951_2008.html#comments');">please add your thoughts</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creating a serious climate for change by odie</title>
		<link>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/creating-a-serious-climate-for-change/#comment-959</link>
		<dc:creator>odie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/climate-change/creating-a-serious-climate-for-change/#comment-959</guid>
		<description>Thanks Nick.  I had a look through the inventory and came up with the following figures.  Where am I going wrong?

N2O emissions from agricultural soils (direct + indirect): 5,124 Gg CO2-e.
Road transport: 12,795.7 Gg CO2-e.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nick.  I had a look through the inventory and came up with the following figures.  Where am I going wrong?</p>
<p>N2O emissions from agricultural soils (direct + indirect): 5,124 Gg CO2-e.<br />
Road transport: 12,795.7 Gg CO2-e.</p>
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